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2009 Jaguar XFR

on Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:01 pm
Well here's a brief introduction to the car - pictures and more detail to be added.

So, the XF SV8 was very good; large cruiser with a good turn of pace - looks great in black with the classic XF Volan alloys.

The XFR is metallic grey / silver wth the standard R alloys. The front spoiler is more purposeful with larger air intakes. The bonnet has the air vents like the XK R. I think the SV8 was more "shouty" due to the black paint job.

I drove the new car back from Swansea last night being very careful due to many speed cameras on that bit of the M4! On first impressions the controls feel heavier - steering and accelerator. The car has 87000 miles on the clock and still feels very well put together - on the road there are no rattles and the sports seats are much more comfortable. Pottering around at 30 through Swansea there is a light V8 burble through the quad exhaust. It feels more laid back than the SV8 - at these speeds.

So at 70 on the motorway it's very refined. The suspension / ride is stiffer than the SV8, but it soaks up the bumps very well. On a couple of occasions I prodded the throttle - you have to push quite hard to get a response. When you do it drops a gear and roars! Peak torque is at 2500 rpm and runs to 5500. Acceleration is brutal; not jolty, but very very powerful and smooth. It can go from gentleman to a muscle clad brute very quickly. I understand that it can go from zero to 100mph in a little over 9 seconds - I do not intend to try this. So it's 503 BHP vs the 420 of the SV8; theres a good helping of extra torque and it locks the gears down quicker.

On the way home last night I stopped on 2 occasions, and drove at 75mph. The first 20 mins is through Swansea and up to the M4 - It averaged 27mpg. On my commute it was 23 - 3 mpg more. You don't buy these cars for their economy, but it will save a few pounds each month!

More another time......
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:52 am
Excellent stuff.

Sounds really good. Like,,,it's still early days....and you've mentioned some differences..but like....does the car:

a) Feel like the same car (overall) but with more power.....
b) Feel totally different in many ways, to drive
c) Feel similar...and you dont notice the extra power unless you ask for it

AND....can you tell there is a different engine under there? Or does it sound and feel like the same unit...but ..enhanced.

(I'm assuming the 5.0 is an enlarged version of the 4.2? Athough something tells me it's actually a different engine?)

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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:56 am
503hp

*strokes vegetable*
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:29 pm
Pah! 503bhp?

I've had more than that!

(if you add my last FIVE cars together!)
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:35 pm
It is a totally different engine - built by Welsh people. The incredible thing about it is peak torque from 2500 - 5500 rpm. This means it doesn't have to search for a gear - it just goes. It also means it's very easy to drive around town, pottering. It actually takes quite a push of the throttle to properly wake it up - unless you use sport mode. This holds gear at around 3000 rpm. Surging power. It doesn't feel as quick as it is but a quick view of the speedo and you see that you are.

It does feel like the same car as the XF SV8, but the controls feel heavier, and the brakes bite much quicker. At 14.5 inches this is no surprise. This evening tried Sport mode for the first time - bloooomin heck! I have not yet tried Dynamic Sport; that will require an incontinence pad I thing.

More to follow, including some pics...
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:39 am
This is all sounding very nice! We will also be requiring some audio and videos!
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:57 am
Sounds a blast! Now for the photos/videos. Cool
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:48 pm
503bhp!

I'd be interested to hear about the longer term ownership costs for something like this at that sort of age and mileage once you've had it a while.

I think they look good. The standard XF is a little too dull, but this is just enough to make it look a bit more sporty and purposeful. Probably don't get as much negative attention as the equivalent German marques either I'm guessing!
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:59 pm
TomH wrote:503bhp!

I'd be interested to hear about the longer term ownership costs for something like this at that sort of age and mileage once you've had it a while.

I think they look good. The standard XF is a little too dull, but this is just enough to make it look a bit more sporty and purposeful. Probably don't get as much negative attention as the equivalent German marques either I'm guessing!


I understand costs are similar to the XF SV8 - service c.£300 every 15k miles. Tax £500 and whatever, Insurance £250. The suspension components are shared with the whole XF range, with springs and dampers being car specific.
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:16 am
£250 insurance.

Not fair.

Thats gotta be pretty damn good on the Ins/bhp/per/£ ratio.

2.012bhp per £

I think mine is...stand by..

0.39bhp per £

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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:28 am
This just reminds me, I NEED MORE POWER
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:03 pm
An update -

I've now had the car for 6 weeks or so, and can report it's growing on me. The supercharger issue is being resolved next week (at the expense of the trader that sold the car to me). Since school breaking up the other week there have not been that many dry days - on anything other than bone dry / warm roads anything more than 50% throttle is not advised.

One such occasion was last night - I went up to a local service station on the M5 to look at the Tesla supercharger points (but that's another story). Coming back onto the motorway I used Sport / Dynamic mode (in Auto)...... Hell!!!!! With a bigger stab of the right foot than I have previously tried it certainly wakes up. Imagine, if you will, kicking a lion in the testicles. The car really is properly quick!

AS a motorway cruiser the Jaguar is perfect, if a littler thirsty. I've not really tried it on an A/B road blast yet, but that will come. Still very happy with it..........

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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:17 pm
Very good indeed. He'll of a car!
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:01 am
A couple of recent pics. I'm machine polishing it in the next few weeks and sorting out a couple of small niggles....... Then fresh Kumhos on the rear and that should do (for now!)....




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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:45 am
Looks like a real sleeper - the bonnet vents and subtle spoiler giving clues that there's more than a 3.0d under the bonnet. Wink
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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:11 pm
EffEff wrote:Looks like a real sleeper - the bonnet vents and subtle spoiler giving clues that there's more than a 3.0d under the bonnet. Wink

The 3 litre D has a spoiler sometimes. The spoiler is about the same size as the one on the 1994 Rover 216 SLi!!

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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:33 pm
hugh121 wrote:
EffEff wrote:Looks like a real sleeper - the bonnet vents and subtle spoiler giving clues that there's more than a 3.0d under the bonnet. Wink

The 3 litre D has a spoiler sometimes. The spoiler is about the same size as the one on the 1994 Rover 216 SLi!!


Now you mention it, it is!! Who'd have thought the Jaguar XFR would have design cues from what is effectively a Honda Concerto? lol. At least they didn't decide to go with one of those ridiculously big spoilers that were fitted to some Alfa 156s...

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Re: 2009 Jaguar XFR

on Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:32 pm
Those Alfa ones makes it easier to drag them out of ditches!!
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