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Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:01 pm
I popped into a car dealer a few miles down the road today, to take a look at a Jaguar XJ. I noticed the garage has mainly 5* reviews with well over 100 of them. I was greeted by a salesman, Damien.

He went through the spec of the (very tidy) XJ. He then told me that they don't offer warranties, as it would automatically have 6 months under the Sale of Goods Act!!!!! I'm amazed at his honesty; VERY refreshing! If only all were so honest and upfront. My big question now is, can I live with a 3L V6 Derv - a drop of 225 BHP.....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802234004215?advertising-location=at_cars&make=JAGUAR&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&sort=distance&postcode=bs217qa&model=XJ&page=1
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:02 pm
Warranty and sale of goods act are 2 very different things .... I'd be cautious about taking it on this basis.

Warranty is black and white, take the car in, get it fixed.

Sales of goods act is a bit subjective, and could lead to you having to go to court to rectify the issue.

I'd push for a warranty still.
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:24 pm
You may go for the XJDerv Huge..but the stipulation is that you must sell the XFR to a Notparkers Member. Who's up for it? LK? Paul?

The Derv will hardly be a slouch but i suppose could feel like one comapred the the 5.0 V8!

Hmmmm, i dont know. At some point you need to get an XJ though as it's the natural progression up the 'Jaguladder'
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:25 pm
List me the faults on the XF, and name me your price ...

I am the Highway Rat ...
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:28 pm
LKsOK wrote:Warranty and sale of goods act are 2 very different things .... I'd be cautious about taking it on this basis.

Warranty is black and white, take the car in, get it fixed.

Sales of goods act is a bit subjective, and could lead to you having to go to court to rectify the issue.

I'd push for a warranty still.

I agree, to a point. But the 2015 SOGA is a large stick when required. The Smart has an ESP error at the moment - not covered by the 3 month basic warranty. But the selling garage are going to pay for the replacement reluctor ring.

It is up to the garage to prove the fault wasn't there when the car was sold - up to 6 months after purchase.


The garage I went to today have load of great reviews - well over 100. If I don't like the derv, they can source me a V8 S/C......
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:29 pm
LKsOK wrote:List me the faults on the XF, and name me your price ...

I am the Highway Rat ...


Faults are most subjective!

So £13500 for you!
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:10 pm
Can’t believe you’ll change the XFR for a diesel
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:47 pm
Wouldn't buy a Maserati because it's too slow.
Considering a diesel Jag...
That Jag won't be much quicker than my 330i.
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:53 pm
Valid points, gentlemen. I have sat in a quiet room worrying about my sanity. I may test drive it to see how the car feels. Unlikely to go for the Derv........

Tempted to ask the garage to try to source a Supersport......

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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:32 pm
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:47 pm
Thoughts .....

Head - looks nice, but is he selling it Justin before the warranty runs out for a reason.

Heart - what the fluck are you waiting for ..... that’s an absolute beast
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:06 pm
What does it offer that your current car gives you? Is there a reason why you wany to get rid of yours? Otherwise I'd stick with the devil you know.
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:38 pm
I agree - do you need a 'bigger' car? Stick with what you've got... unless the running costs are crippling of course!
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:41 pm
Teeps wrote:What does it offer that your current car gives you? Is there a reason why you wany to get rid of yours? Otherwise I'd stick with the devil you know.

Wise words sir! The main difference is more space and a nicer place to be. BUT the car I have isn't exactly shabby..... I should probably stick for another year or so. Then the XJRs will have dropped in price and I can continue my Power Climb - 575 BHP!!!

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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:20 am
Another solution!

90% of the time I drive on my own - the company is better, but the mpg drops!! The current car is amazing, but is now on 98500 miles - ok large lazy V8 should have plenty of life left in it. I could spend £1500 (including the G/box service) to bring it right up to spec.

I found this "car twin" last night - same in every way except for colour of the leather. It has 25k miles - very low indeed for a 2009 car.

http://www.tvscars.co.uk/used/jaguar/xf/5-0-v8-supercharged-xfr-auto/for-sale-in-stanmore-estate-bridgnorth/aetv65065041/

Looking at various car value sites, the basic trade price is about £5000 apart. So let's say it costs £7000 to change - this will take a fair bit of negotiating I expect. Assuming the above car is "perfect", that's effectively £5500 to "clock" my car.

Worth doing?

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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:59 am
Urm - that’s quite a big difference in mileage

How many miles do you do a year ??
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:20 am
LKsOK wrote:Urm - that’s quite a big difference in mileage

How many miles do you do a year ??


About 12k - I think it's the mileage that concerns me the most. But the V8s should go on for years - might go to see it to see how much "newer" it feels.

So, in 5 years my current car would be at around 160k, the other one 85k..... mmmmm - I think Head and Heart might be having a chat over this one....
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:03 am
If it’s £7k to change what’s the price difference between the two in 5yrs?

£7k in the bank to pay for breakages over that time is the other option
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:40 pm
That black XJ is deliciously beasty. I think the XJ is the next thing to do, be it diesel or petrol.

I know it might not compare...but i've driven a XF 3.0D S (the one with 280ish brake, it think?) And it was delightfully swift and quiet and smooth. BUT! You couldn't really 'feel' the speed? if you know what i mean? You were well suppressed from the physics of it all. Depending on what you want, that might be a good or bad thing?
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:32 pm
Well, looks like there's no deal to be done on this one. Speaking to the seller, he took it in as a PX against some Audi Q'thing. The chap had only had it for about 6 weeks and it scared his wife, who told him to get rid. Apparently he had paid £22k for it from a Jag dealership. So, it seems the trader has paid over book for it - seems a bit strange to me!

He would look to get shot of mine so is offering a similar amount to WBAC. Asking me for an additional £10k....

Oh well..... stick with what I have for now.

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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:19 pm
It's hardly a hardship Huge!

But a do admire your Jaguladder climbage!
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:42 pm
I am the Highway Rat .. and I'll take your Jaguar for £10,500
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:45 pm
Is this a serious offer LK? It would be something rather special to prowl around in....
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:58 pm
MegaCrixel wrote:Is this a serious offer LK? It would be something rather special to prowl around in....

What I meant was ... I'll give him £500 more than WBAC .... but at the right price I'd think about it.
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Re: Astonished - Car dealer honesty!

on Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:04 pm
LKsOK wrote:I am the Highway Rat .. and I'll take your Jaguar for £10,500

Ok - and for another £2k I'll throw in the wheels!!!

And another £995 on top - the steering wheel!

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