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on Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:28 am
I've built up a speadsheet of performance stats over the past couple of years of vehicles i've owned/driven.

The times were measured by myself. I more recently changed to a 'set away a voice recording and shout go and stop into it' (then measure that time), rather than the method of physically starting and stopping the stop watch which can prove dangerous!

I'll attach an image of the screen. I've tried to paste the stuff in but it goes in a wierd format and is unreadable.

What i am meaning is - if anyone else has done (or wants to do their own) then let me know the stats and i'll add them to the table.

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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:54 am
Everything ok mate ??
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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:15 am
Jag XFR

0-60 4.6
0-100 9.7
50-70 (kick down), so probably 2nd gear 1.8 seconds


And where are your figures for the Saab?


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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:53 am
LK - yes, fine thanks!

Hugh - are these your own figures?

Ref the saab - for some reason i didn't do them! Or at least i didn't record them! I do however remember that i couldn't get the 0-60 below 7.5s! (quoted was 6.5s) I am quite mechanically minded and didn't ever dare just dumping the clutch on the Saab. Each time i tried it was with a fairly gentle getaway! I'm sure i could have done better if i'd have just gone for it.
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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:16 pm
MegaCrixel wrote:LK - yes, fine thanks!

Hugh - are these your own figures?

Ref the saab - for some reason i didn't do them! Or at least i didn't record them! I do however remember that i couldn't get the 0-60 below 7.5s! (quoted was 6.5s) I am quite mechanically minded and didn't ever dare just dumping the clutch on the Saab. Each time i tried it was with a fairly gentle getaway! I'm sure i could have done better if i'd have just gone for it.


No - not my own figures. Shall do some at some point; I'm interested to see how quickly it can do 60 pulling away in 2nd gear. No reason, just interested.

There is a fair bit of discrepancy about some of the times, with reasons ranging from the levels of labour involved in the making of the engine to tyre choice etc etc. Some have better output figures than others - one case where it was 530bhp standard. The Americans always seem to have the more optimistic times, in some cases backed up by speedway print outs, but bullsh1t in others! My personal experience is that my new XFR feels much quicker than the old one. I've also read that some will do 60 in 4.3 seconds. Either way it's not the 0-60 that is important in a 2 ton saloon; its the way it makes you feel! The mid range is where it excels with the ability to make an overtake in the same timeframe it takes to think about it....

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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:38 pm
Oh absolutely, it's the way it feels.

The quickest car i've driven recently was the 235i, (which as an auto i think is quoted at 4.8 to 60?) I did a standing start launch and i literally shouted "HOLY SHIT" followed by a real life LOL, tremendous.

An engine can make or break a car...

Like...my Jeeeeaaaag (3.0)...it wasn't a great or fast car...but there was something nice when you were driving about with a relatively large engine, you had that feeling of like....engine 'in reserve' which i think can only come from a large engine.
It was like that in the Golf R32....no faster (and indeed often slower) than the 2.0T GTis and stuff...but the feeling of a 'big' engine in a smallish car...superb. Not to mention the gorgeous sound it made!


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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:45 pm
The local Jag specialist is putting a manual gearbox into a 4.2 V8 S/C XKR - far less losses than the auto box. Will be interesting to see how quickly that moves off!

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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:55 pm
It's strange how an auto can change the way peformance feels. Is it because it's more linear?

Like....i've very recently driven both manual and automatic versions of the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross. The manual feels quite sprightly...the auto feels slower. But the auto is 4WD..and 125kg heavier...yet has quicker quoted performance times than the manual.

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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:46 pm
MegaCrixel wrote:It's strange how an auto can change the way peformance feels. Is it because it's more linear?

Like....i've very recently driven both manual and automatic versions of the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross. The manual feels quite sprightly...the auto feels slower. But the auto is 4WD..and 125kg heavier...yet has quicker quoted performance times than the manual.



A mixture of things I expect. Autos have come a very long way over the last 15 years! Also lots of software running on them - different modes on the Jag lock down the torque converter at different stages - Dynamic mode (on flappy paddles) thumps its way through the gears very quickly. But with any auto the transmission losses are greater than a manual one.

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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:51 pm
Modern autos are quicker at changing gear than a human. Manual feels faster because it is lighter and has less drag from the drive train, so in gear it will be quicker.
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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:15 pm
Thank you, chaps.
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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:10 pm


The Subaru is slow but I like it. I like changing the gear's, giving it some revs in 3rd and stuff. I don't think I would be any happier in something else.




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Re: Performance Stats

on Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:42 pm
Apart from your previous car! Which I can tell you still long for!
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Re: Performance Stats

on Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:10 am
I cant imagine the manual version of mine being quicker than the current one, in sports mode it changes in milliseconds, there's no physical way a human could make that change that quickly.

in fact, i just looked the specs up.

0-62 manual- 5.0
0-62 auto - 4.8
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Re: Performance Stats

on Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:42 am
ja. the 'box was great in the 235i. "THRAPP" "WWHAAP" "BRRAPPP" changes.

With the odd gurgle and pop.

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Re: Performance Stats

on Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:23 pm
MegaCrixel wrote:Apart from your previous car! Which I can tell you still long for!


Yeah maybe. That thing was my first car. I just kept for an exceptionally long time. hehe
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Re: Performance Stats

on Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:35 pm
It was exceptionally long! I think i joined Parkers in 2001/2.....and you were already a member (i think) and you already had the Agila then (Agliaman!)
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Re: Performance Stats

on Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:01 pm
Stats updated to include todays DS4.


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Re: Performance Stats

on Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:10 pm
It's almost a duty to drive our car to Crix's testing place to get them tested....

It's a bit to complicated for me. Smile

or Crix can fly down do the test and fly back.

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Re: Performance Stats

on Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:32 am
For advisory reasons, i can...er...advise that i found two recordings on my phone that i'd forgotten about.

Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross 1.5T manual: 0-60 timed at 8.00 seconds

Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross 1.5T automatic (comes with 4x4 as standard): 0-60 timed at 9.00s
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